Stolen Surfboard in LBI

Copied and Pasted from the Localswell forum:

While surfing the break at the end of my street with a friend on Sunday, I had a 6'3 CI Black Beauty taken from the beach. It was my backup board I left there when I paddled out. I was in the lineup when a person came over the dunes and grabbed it. 58th Street in Brant Beach on LBI is not a spot that is frequented by visiting surfers. The board was in the middle of the beach away from the dune entrances. I honestly thought this was a joke. The board has a black and white stripped Da Kine pad on it and my name, Brian, is under the glass on the stringer as it was a custom. It has the black Curren airbrush band on the deck. If anyone has information as to who might have taken this board or sees it turn up, please email me or call Farias Surf & Sport at 609-494-7368. I would love to be able to find out who did this and will offer up any surfboard in my shop for the person who can help me get this board back. Thanks.

Kyle Gronostajski 12/20/09 photos

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v228/surfer57/Blizzard%2012-09/

Jonathan Hoover pics 12/20/09

Another killer batch of photos from Jonathan Hoover documenting the 12/20/09 "Winter Wallop" swell.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157622916845291/show/


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Coil video

Pit Surf Surfshop (Pitsurf.com) posted a solid video of Josie Graves and Dan Miller killing it on their coils:

Surfline feature on the Ida/Noreaster swell

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/hurricane-ida--super-low--blocking-high-pressure-conspire-to-send-buckets-of-surf-to-ec_38816/1/

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Jon Cohen ESPN feature on the Ida/Noreaster swell

Check out the ESPN feature on the Ida/Noreaster swell by Jon Cohen:

http://espn.go.com/action/surfing/blog/_/post/4663150

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Transworld Surf photo feature Jonathan Hoover

Transworld Surf just posted a feature of LBI's very own Jonathan Hoover's photos of the recent Ida leftover/Noreaster swell:

http://surf.transworld.net/photos/photos-ida-better-take-this-one/?pid=51958#ngtop

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Virtual Tour of the Noreaster thus far

Jumped in the Cherokee to take a look around on Friday afternoon (11/13/09):

Lavallette walkway:




Lavallette surf:



Looking North:


Looking South:


Drove to northside Casino Pier:










Then to southside Casino Pier:







Looking towards Funtown Pier:




Decided to run to Manaquan Inlet (good excuse to pick up some Surf Taco on the way home):

Manasquan Inlet, Point Pleasant Beach side:




Manasquan north jetty from PPB:




The drive to the Manasquan side of the inlet (lots of interesting flooding and debris (including a small boat halfway in the street) that I had planned on photo-ing on the way home, but the cops closed down the road while I was there and I had to detour up East Main Street):






The cove point (looking back towards Point Pleasant) and Dog Beach:







A few pics of Main Beach in Manasquan (can see the north jetty in the first pic):

Surfer drowns in Rockaway Beach, NY

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2009/11/12/2009-11-12_surfer_drowns_in_choppy_currents_off_rockaways_despite_firefighters_effort.html


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10/25/09 Jonathan Hoover shots

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157622543973453/show/


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Grudge Match Video

Sam Hammer interview

Friend of eastcoastsurfer.com Ryan Bower interviews Sam Hammer after his Grudge Match win:

http://surf.transworld.net/features/pride-and-glory-east-coast-lights-up-for-garden-state-grudge-match/

Vid from the Grudge Match

The Grudge Match went down this past monday in clean head high waves. Hammer defeated Gessler in a tight final.

http://espn.go.com/action/surfing/blog?post=4585131

History of Surfing Absecon Island

Some web surfing on this dreary, blown-out day yielded a nice find:

http://gallery.me.com/bobsgt#100085&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=10

I'm not sure who put this gallery together, but it is definitely worth a look.

Clam Jam a go for Saturday

Jetty's 3rd annual Clam Jam contest has been green lighted for Saturday in Harvey Cedars. Looks like there should be a small south swell with offshores. Festivities kick off at 7am, Hudson Avenue. Brendan Willem is looking to 3-peat after being on winning teams the past two years while this years field of 64 paired teams is the largest yet.

Pat Emery, new ESA All-Star Coach

Congrats to Pat "Surf Cat" Emery for being named the new ESA All-Star Coach:

http://www.easternsurf.com/feature_easterns09b/index.html

2009 Anything But Three East

2009 Anything But 3 East
Saturday September 26th (rain/no wave date Sept 27th)
Harvey Cedars, NJ (LBI)
Location - Hudson St.

The event all you right coasters have been waiting for. The second annual AB3E. Last years event was a huge success with local pro and backyard shapers and several visiting shapers from San Diego County CA.

This year we are holding the event in the fall, which is a great time of year to visit NJ. The water is warm, (typically board shorts or spring suit), the leaves are starting to turn colors, the summer crowds and lifeguards are gone, and the tropical swells are pumping.

This is a great event for surfers and surfboard shapers alike. A great day to demo many different designs and learn more about the craft of hand shaping surfboards. Bring out your favorite boards, show them off, and let others take them for a ride. It's all about trying different shapes and talking about board design.

Updates and more info can be found on the official blog
http://anythingbut3east.blogspot.com/

Pictures of last years event can be seen at:

http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1362874&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

The Facebook page can be found by searching for "Anything But Three - East"

FYI- Wavejammer Wetsuit Swap Sept. 19-20

From the Wavejammer website:

Wetsuit Swap/Sale
Saturday & Sunday
September 19 & 20

It's coming! The often imitated, but never equaled, Original Wetsuit Swap/Sale at Wavejammer. If you’re buying, you don’t need anything to swap. It’s just a great way to pick up some used equipment at a fraction of its original cost! If you’re selling, here’s how it works:

* You drop off your used wetsuit(s) or swim fin(s), the sooner the better, before the sale (they should be dropped off by Friday September 18).
* You set the price -- (a non-negotiable price)
* If we sell your stuff, you get the entire price in the form of Wavejammer store credit, good on anything in the store (valid for 1 year).
* Suits being dropped off must be dry, clean and suitable for trying on.
* Any items not sold must be picked up by Sunday September 27.

Manasquan Longboard Classic - DATE CHANGE 10/20

Email from Surfrider:

Folks,

The date has changed based on the wave forcast to SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 20th.

Check-in begins at 7:00am, first heat at 8:00am. Qualifying boards will be available for use, so come on down - entry fee is only $35, which includes a contest t-shirt and the chance to win bragging rights over your buds! Net proceeds go to the Surfrider Foundation''s Jersey Shore Chapter.

Facebook Event page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=53623134124

Volunteers are still needed on event day to help out with check-in, at the classic and Surfrider tables. Please reach out to Bob (adksurf@aol.com) if you can help out.

Aloha!
The Jersey Shore Chapter

Belmar Pro Video

Steve Donohue (? judged on his YouTube profile/author name) posted up some video from the Belmar Pro:

Buy a wetsuit, win a board

Now at No Flat Earth:

Buy a 5\4\3 from no flat earth (hyperflex, billabong\west) in September or October and you will be entered in a raffle to win a new surfboard!

More Bill and Danny pics

More photos from Hurricane Bill and TS Danny were added at www.localswell.com . Click away and enjoy.

Manasquan Classic Longboard Contest

From Surfrider:

Folks,

The 19th Annual Manasquan Classic is coming up on Saturday, September 19th 2009. We will yet again pay homage to the sport of kings at the Manasquan Classic! Hurricane date is Sunday September 20th. There are divisions for everyone (6 divisions: Men, Women, Jr Men, Jr Women, Tandem, and the Clown Division) and, as always, the ONLY rules are contestants must ride a pre-1967 longboard (3'' overhead), no leashes and no complaints - pretty much anything goes because it''s all about the aloha!

Check-in begins at 7:00am, first heat at 8:00am. Qualifying boards will be available for use, so come on down - entry fee is only $35, which includes a contest t-shirt and the chance to win bragging rights over your buds! Net proceeds go to the Surfrider Foundation''s Jersey Shore Chapter.

Entry Form: http://www.surfriderjsc.org/pdf/longboard2009.pdf

Facebook Event page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=53623134124

Volunteers are still needed on event day to help out with check-in, at the classic and Surfrider tables. Please reach out to Bob (adksurf@aol.com) if you can help out.

Aloha!
The Jersey Shore Chapter

A Pleasant Surprise (surf film)

From the website http://www.apleasantsurprisefilm.com/ :

A Pleasant Surprise offers an honest look at the talents of a select group of surfers who live in a truly special part of the United States. Almost three years in the making, this film documents a world of contrast as daily changes in weather and waves prove to be all part of a larger picture; thumping beach breaks, cold water, and quick tropical storms are just a fraction of what you will find. Brought to you in Super 16mm, A Pleasant Surprise allows for the full beauty of this region and its surfers to be realized.

A Pleasant Surprise from Kyle Pahlow on Vimeo.

video Manasquan Inlet Hurricane Bill

Manasquan Inlet session from Hurricane Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdNlZlu2O9E



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Andy Irons speaks on NJ trip

3x World Champ Andy Irons speaks about his recent trip to NJ to score swell from Hurricane Bill (see previous post for photos, interview linked immediately below):

http://espn.go.com/action/surfing/blog?post=4420406

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Surf Stars in NJ

Joe Guagliardo, who posts over at www.localswell.com , shot a session with international surf stars Andy Irons, Sam Hammer, Pete Mendia, and a handful of local guys (Mike Gleason, the Pollioni brothers and others). Definitely worth the time to scroll through the images:

http://josephguagliardo.zenfolio.com/p877716124


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DRF Benefit- Little Nasty's Big Wave Challenge

Little Nasty's Big Wave Challenge to Benefit the Dean Randazzo Cancer Foundation

Surf all hurricane season long, get photographed on the biggest wave wearing the official orange "Hurricane Surf for Dean!" Competitor's Rashguard and you WIN!

Go to:

http://www.nynjsurf.com/2009-Hurricane-Surf-for-Dean-Competition-Information.htm

REMINDER: Sea of Change event on Friday needs volunteers

Friday august 7th Sea of Change & no flat earth are providing a free day of surfing for 160 autistic kids and their families.

volunteers are needed from 1-5 or 1-7:30.

We need some soft top boards, hands and hearts.

If you want to change some lives through surfing go to www.seaofchangesurf.com or call Mark Colino at No Flat Earth 732-262-8404

New Patience trailer

The Creative Society Media guys have posted up a new trailer for their movie "Patience" and it looks insane. This movie, dropping next week, will be featuring a number of NJ/NY guys alongside international pros.

http://www.patiencemovie.com/

PATIENCE Trailer from Chaz Loskarn on Vimeo.

Ocean City Surf Rodeo covered by Press of AC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lAkJTMPqEU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efacebook%2Ecom%2Fhome%2Ephp%3Fref%3Dhome&feature=player_embedded

Sea of Change event for autistic kids

Friday august 7th Sea of Change & no flat earth are providing a free day of surfing for 160 autistic kids and their families.

volunteers are needed from 1-5 or 1-7:30.

We need some soft top boards, hands and hearts.

If you want to change some lives through surfing go to www.seaofchangesurf.com or call Mark Colino at No Flat Earth 732-262-8404

Annual Hyperflex Reggae Summer Splash

The 2nd Annual Hyperflex Reggae Summer Splash will be taking place on Saturday August 8th from 2-8 pm. The event will be held at the Golden Inn in Avalon, on the beach. Live music, Corona specials, food specials and a huge surf raffle to benefit The Brendan Fund for Pediatric cancer in Cape May County. Everyone is invited, admission is free!

Surf Rodeo in Ocean City

The annual Pick-out-of-a-hat surf rodeo in Ocean City is coming up:

http://csfoceancity.com/events.html

Annual Chip Miller surf fest

The Annual Chip Miller surf fest is coming up:

http://www.chipmiller.org/surffest/

Spectacular Adventures (movie)

Looks like some NJ surfers will be featured alongside international surf stars in the upcoming movie "Spectacular Adventures"

check out the trailer:

http://superspectacularadventures.com/?page_id=2

Surfline feature on Jersey groms

Great Surfline feature on some up-and-coming NJ surfers:

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/when-groms-attack-new-jersey_27342/1/



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Surfboard Demo day

No Flat Earth is having a surfboard demo day. Info lifted from the localswell.com message board:

Thursday july 9th 5pm-8:30pm at brick beach 3 (next to the old thunderbird hotel) there will be a chance to ride all kinds of different boards ie.. fish, longboards, performance etc.. from Weber, Aloha, 7S, Walden, McTavish, Southpoint, Blue and more.

Jonathan Hoover shots 6/6

The weekend's swell event never truly cleaned up but there were plenty of waves on offer. Here are some of Jonathan Hoover's shots from Saturday.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157619364091451/show/

Jonathan Hoover shots of weekend's swell

Two new sets from photographer Jonathan Hoover from Friday and Saturday on LBI.

Friday 5/29
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157619148617212/

Saturday 5/30
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157619064502849/

2009 NJ Red Bull Riders Cup

Good Surfline footage of the 2009 NJ Red Bull Riders Cup, Ocean City High School vs. Middle Township High School.

http://www.surfline.com/video/contests/2009-red-bull-riders-cup-new-jersey_27041


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Chris Huch scores cover shot on localswell.com

Eastcoastsurfer.com blogger and content contributor Chris Huch scores the localswell frontpage shot, photo by Jonathan Hoover.

Check out the main page at www.locaswell.com

... and the rest of Hoover's images from that day at http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157618451239599/show

Free the Pier!

No, not any of our Jersey piers, but this surfline article regarding Johhny Mercer Pier in NC makes you think what is possible, and potentially coming down the road to a break near you, in our litigious society (especially in NJ where lawsuits run amok):

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/cops-cracking-down-on-surfers-at-wrightsville-beach-pier-north-carolina-paddle-battle_25724/


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Jonathan Hoover shots 4/23

More shots coming from Jonathan Hoover from last week. Some great sunrise shots in the beginning.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157617255107459/show/

Heritage Surf and Sport featured in Surfline's Surf Shop section

Surfline recently featured a good writeup on Heritage Surf and Sport. Heritage is one of the stand out shops in South Jersey and is known statewide. Read about the shop's long history here:

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/heritage-familys-surfing-legacy-is-alive-and-thriving-in-new-jersey-surf-shops-heritage-surf-and-sport_26106/

Shots of Friday's Swell in LBI

Jonathan Hoover took some shots in the morning before the wind came onshore in LBI. The swell didn't quite work out for us due to a variety of factors (tide, angle, wind) but there were still some great waves on offer if you were able to snag them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover/sets/72157617023508104/show/

Coehn gets props from ...lost

"...we're not sure who this fuc%n guy Jon Coen is but he writes about 50 stories a day on surfing for ESPN and seems more in touch with what's really goin on in surfing than everyone but Justin Poston and Gilligan and Vince. Don't tell his bosses cuz sometimes a validation from ...Lost will get you fired."

http://www.lostenterprises.com/prod/newsArtical.php?ID=1668


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Hyperflex Signs on as the Official Wetsuit Sponsor of the ESA

Scott Troxel, Brand Manager for Hyperflex Wetsuits states “This partnership is an unbelievable opportunity for Hyperflex Wetsuits. The ESA has long been a pillar of support for East Coast Surfing. The ESA has also been instrumental in the growth of surf businesses on the East Coast including retail and manufacturing. The ESA helped to make us (The East Coast) legitimate by showing the world we could raise competitive surf talent like Slater, the Hobgoods and the Lopezes. Also, since Hyperflex is one of the few surf manufacturers based on the east coast, we naturally share the similar interests and goals as the ESA. We couldn’t be any more stoked with this Right Coast partnership.”

"I am so stoked to be working with everyone at HyperFlex" remarked Debbie Hodges Executive Director of the Eastern Surfing Association, "HyperFlex makes one killer wetsuit and to have such a high level company on the East Coast to working with is absolutely awesome!"

Transworld feature on NJ

Featuring Seth Stafford's photos with Hammer and Keenan.

http://surf.transworld.net/2009/04/08/jersey-juice/

Surfrider campaign- Rise Above Plastics (RAP)

Surfrider is launching a new campaign regarding the use and proper disposal/recycling of plastics. Definitely a lot of good info to consider.

For more information on plastic pollution please visit the Rise Above Plastics blog & www.riseaboveplastics.org

Jonathan Hoover surf shots from the past two swells

Friend of eastcoastsurfer Jonathan Hoover is back shooting on LBI. Here's his gallery from the past two swells.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanhoover

Hyperflex sponsors Randazzo

Hyperflex Wetsuits has added Dean Randazzo to its roster of sponsored riders. Read the news, including about a signature Randazzo suit, at:

http://www.hyperflexusa.com/index.php?page=news

Dark Fall Surfline trailer

Surfline is featuring a trailer for "Dark Fall", an NJ surf film by Alex DePhillipo.

http://www.surfline.com/video/trailers/dark-fall_25299

Love the line "A film about a group of unpopular surfers from an unpopular place".

From the looks of the trailer, the film looks in-fuggin-sane. If watching the trailer does not get you pumped up to surf and excited about its release, check your pulse and make sure you are not dead.

New England Sam Hammer photos

http://surfermag.com/photos/flash/inside_new_england_lavecchia_nevins/

Surfermag.com has a nice slide show of New England waves and has a few shots of Sam Hammer to boot.

Cool stuff I figured I would post

B
www.eastcoastsurfer.com

Surfline Feature on Monmouth County Replenishment

Jon Coen covers the recent beach replenishment operation in Long Branch and its effect on surfers there.

http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/army-corps-of-engineers-sort-of-help-surf-quality-in-long-branch-nj-spit-sand_25317/

Bunch of Casino Pier vid clips 03/22/09

E swell and offshore winds. Shallow conditions, lots of closeouts, lots of so-so waves, and a few decent rides.

If you see yourself in one of these and would like to be identified or be sent the original file, contact professorsak@eastcoastsurfer.com

Unidentified:

Unidentified:

Unidentified:

Joey Pinheiro:

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Joey Pinheiro:

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Joey Pinheiro:

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Clay Pollioni charges HI

Check out the front page shot at http://www.localswell.com/


Clay Pollioni charging Hawaii. Solid representation of NJ.

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Surf for a Cause benefit 02/27/09

contact: SurfForACure@gmail.com The OLC will be Hosting a Surfers Ball to benifit our friend and Wynn Surfboards glasser Butch. Butch was just diagnosed w/ a brain tumor and his medical bills are mounting quickly. We invite everyone to join us for a fun filled evening of live music by the Turtleheads a fantastic spread of food from the chefs @ Great Bay accompanied by a cash bar w/ drink specials. We will be raffling off a Wynn Longboard as well as tons of other raffles to be had. Tickets will be $30 in advance and $35 @ the door. Dress is Surf Semi-formal (that means whatever you want it to mean). Anyone wishing to donate $$$ can make checks out to Butchy's mom "Marie Walsh" Donations can be sent to: OLC Headquarters North 514 W. New Jersey Ave Somers Point, NJ 08244

More info can be found at this thread on localswell:

http://localswell.freeforums.org/a-surfers-ball-olc-t1341.html

Story of Greg "Grog" Mesanko

A must-read about living local legend Greg "Grog" Mesanko

Definitely worth the time it takes to read it; lots of local history, legend, and lore.

http://www.allaboutsurf.com/articles/grog

offshore wind farm update

Of the five proposals...




... it appears the NJ State Board of Public Utilities has gone with the proposal by Offshore Energy (a venture between PSEG Renewable Generation and offshore wind developer Deepwater Wind) to build an offshore wind project up to 300 MW:



While Jeff Tittel of the NJ Sierra Club chapter has endorsed this effort towards renewable energy ("We see this as a great day for clean energy and for jobs and for the people of New Jersey"), Tom Dillingham of the American Littoral Society is on the record as stating, "I think putting 125 or so turbines in the ocean before completing environmental studies is putting the cart before the horse."

I am curious to find out what Surfrider Foundation thinks of this project, particularly the South NJ chapter, considering that the array (I've heard it is predicted to be expanded to approximately 900 turbines, but I need to fact-check that) could potentially diffuse swells from the southerly direction.

More to come as I learn more.

Video- New Jersey Barrels

New Jersey Barrels

NJ is greeted with reeling rights on February 19th, 2008.

Water-based video (brrr!)

Video byMichael Cimino at Surf2liv productions

http://www.surfline.com/video/locals/new-jersey-barrels_13885

Video- November in New Jersey

Carmen Vicari posted up a solid video featuring Sam Hammer and Clay Pollioni. Definitley worth a watch:

http://www.grindtv.com/video/surf/november_in_new_jersey/

Proposed LNG facility, Surfrider public meeting

The Atlantic Sea Island Group is planning to build a massive industrial complex in the ocean for the importation of LNG (liquefied natural gas).

To check out the location and artist's rendering of what this facility will look like, check out the Atlantic Sea Island Group's webpage: http://www.atlanticseaislandgroup.com/ Be sure to click to zoom in on the "proposed island site" to see how the facility would actually be a man-made island.

Surfrider Foundation is holding a public meeting regarding this proposed facility on January 27th in Eatontown. More info here: http://www.surfriderjsc.org/events.asp?nid=41

Philadelphia Surf and Snow Film Night

From jeffrey@mindfulguy.net , for our surf brethern to the West:

Aloha;

I just wanted to let you know about a small Surf and Snow film Night I am hosting to benefit the Ronald McDonald house. On February 6th, 2009 I will be showing several surf and snowboard films at the Milkboy Coffee Shop in Ardmore, PA. (www.milkboycoffee.com) We are going to have 2 surf movies and 2 snowboard ones. These are brand new release movies. We are also offering free beer and wine.

Tickets to the event can be bought through me by emailing filmfestival@mindfulguy.net The shop also has some tickets available. We will certainly sell out for this event. I hope you will be able to make it. We are also hosting a big event in March that can be found on our website at www.mindfulguy.net then film festival.

These are great causes. Please email me with any questions you might have.

Mahalo.

jeffrey@mindfulguy.net

Patience- surf vid

PATIENCE is the highly anticipated surf film by Creative Society Media. The film stars the best waves and surfers in the world.

Starring: Luke Ditella, Lucas Rogers, Jesse Hines, Noah Snyder, Rob Kelly, Brendan Petticrew, Vince Boulanger, Raven Lundy, Jarrah Tutton, Mike Gleason, Wesley DeSouza, Jeff Myers

Kelly Slater, Jeremy Flores, Patrick Beven, CJ Hobgood, Tommy Bursian, Corey Lopez, Chris Ward, Rhys Bombaci, Philip Gould, Michel Bourez, Billy Hume, Brendon Buckley and FRIENDS

PATIENCE was filmed on location in New Jersey, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Florida, California, Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, France, Australia and more....

PATIENCE world premiere is slated for summer 2009!

Sak's comment: As you can tell from the preview trailer, this vid looks really tight, and features a number of NJ and NY guys. I'm actually pretty excited for it's release.


PATIENCE from Chaz Loskarn on Vimeo.

Hyperflex Q&A

Q&A with Hyperflex's Scott Troxel at www.malakye.com

http://malakye.com/asp/front/CMSPage.asp?TYP_ID=2&ID=1768

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Kooks

What if localism translated to everyday life?

Division East Needs our Votes

http://focusskatemag.com/

Click on that link above and Vote for Division East. A very good from Friend and supporter of Eastcoastsurfer.com for years.

The voting if on the right hand part of the web page. Let show the power of Eastcoastsurfer.com and vote.

Thanks
Brent
www.eastcoastsurfer.com

Pine Surf Shop burns down

Pine Surf Shop/Art Gallery in LBI burned down, investigation in progress. Some recent APP articles:

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200881230092

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200881231032

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009901010413